tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post454995241800016858..comments2024-03-19T01:13:17.190-07:00Comments on Blog Flume: “My Cola Silo is Out Back”: Wally GropiusAlvin Buenaventurahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13279526339444526106noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-34206908095516136272010-07-08T13:40:10.464-07:002010-07-08T13:40:10.464-07:00Just cause someone didnt answer you is no reason t...Just cause someone didnt answer you is no reason to do a 180 freak out. Patience is good. Dont be hurt over nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-36096173976386219102010-07-08T09:50:10.141-07:002010-07-08T09:50:10.141-07:00Hey, Jeffrey, I actually usually enjoy your cuttin...Hey, Jeffrey, I actually usually enjoy your cutting comments and find them very funny, seriously! I really can't tell which is your sentiment here though. I was obsessively checking this post for a while, but luckily had eased off...<br />It has occurred to me that if there are so many things in the book that could bear explaining, it may not be connecting on any basic level and thus, as you say, fucking sucks...Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-30299095357125634092010-07-08T04:36:09.098-07:002010-07-08T04:36:09.098-07:00Okay, right, you got me - I was obviously kidding,...Okay, right, you got me - I was obviously kidding, I really think the book fucking sucks. Way too in love with its own esoteric cleverness to amount to anything meaningful for anyone but Alvin Buenaventura's gastric bypass surgeon, Art Spiegelman's accountant and 90-year-old codebreakers. Perhaps next we can all discussJeffrey Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08555472715577841881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-64192167657676100792010-07-04T03:37:22.651-07:002010-07-04T03:37:22.651-07:00Really fascinating and well-crafted book, but I...Really fascinating and well-crafted book, but I'm still sorting it out in my head and have questions about a few formal choices:<br /><br />-Why, if the innards of the book are done mostly in the style of Harvey comics and their ilk, does the cover refer to European albums in its design?<br /><br />-What are the numbers and symbols on the spine? Numerology? Variations of his safe combination? Stock ticker quotes?Jeffrey Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08555472715577841881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-38736223602851547422010-06-21T16:28:28.086-07:002010-06-21T16:28:28.086-07:00Thanks so much! That means a lot. More to come!Thanks so much! That means a lot. More to come!Jason Overbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06950447945934411203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-23581606378774486452010-06-21T08:32:17.299-07:002010-06-21T08:32:17.299-07:00Thanks, Jason.
I loved those minis you sent a whi...Thanks, Jason. <br />I loved those minis you sent a while back. Looking forward to reading more of your comics.Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-79537156932380931802010-06-17T19:33:55.233-07:002010-06-17T19:33:55.233-07:00Yep - this book is incredible. Amazingly precise ...Yep - this book is incredible. Amazingly precise drawings, weird compositions, great stuff!Jason Overbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06950447945934411203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-35027047059373236312010-06-13T09:34:23.199-07:002010-06-13T09:34:23.199-07:00I think it's an amazing work. The comparisons...I think it's an amazing work. The comparisons with Playful Obsession are silly--what, only parody of Harvey comics is allowed? It draws on so many different influences and emerges as something so unique. Wonderful work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-61726113380422739392010-06-11T16:24:43.467-07:002010-06-11T16:24:43.467-07:00Did you catch any references to Walter Gropius (se...Did you catch any references to Walter Gropius (see http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/246573/Walter-Gropius ) in "Wally Gropius"? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-25080926762035234232010-06-07T04:29:40.402-07:002010-06-07T04:29:40.402-07:00(Rich Richie is a cool name, like Bev Bevan.
Son o...(Rich Richie is a cool name, like Bev Bevan.<br />Son of Lionel Richie.<br />OK, time for cereal...)Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-15746935317400586342010-06-06T11:19:50.456-07:002010-06-06T11:19:50.456-07:00I read a review that talks about "Playful Obs...I read a review that talks about "Playful Obsession" – it seems like the author has a narrow notion of parody and what Tim’s doing, seeing his comic as all about having Rich Richie smoke a bong and talk in non sequiturs. <br /><br />That seems to me like someone who is not reacting to the book as much as they could be – they think, “I have seen this before” and disengage; they fit it into a category and don’t see all of the ways that it doesn’t follow that model. <br /><br />I have seen that kind of comic <br />100s of times, too, and Wally Gropius isn’t it.<br /><br />Are there even non sequiturs in the book? – I just don’t see them . . .Ken Parillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00701364662425130792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-33008169996183981162010-06-06T05:08:04.371-07:002010-06-06T05:08:04.371-07:00Whoops. Just checked out comichovel.com. I need to...Whoops. Just checked out comichovel.com. I need to put the Hitchcock strips on that site somehow.<br />Thanks, Sam (and Blaise up above).<br />Where's the Rotten Tomatoes webpage for comics?<br />Marmaduke is at 11%. <br />"In a genre so choked with cynical films, this one was made with enough skill and heart to make its emotional payoffs believable" - Jason Heck, Kansas City StarTim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-3623815704463752322010-06-06T00:13:20.380-07:002010-06-06T00:13:20.380-07:00At ComicHovel.com you can find a huge selection of...At ComicHovel.com you can find a huge selection of Online Comics that you can read entirely for free! If you have a comic, we have many tools that can help get readers to your comic!Online Comicshttp://www.comichovel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-19654147043421077812010-06-05T16:08:16.699-07:002010-06-05T16:08:16.699-07:00Favorite book this year so far!Favorite book this year so far!Sam Gas Canhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05460039621765270361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-3617744070567342512010-06-05T15:22:29.040-07:002010-06-05T15:22:29.040-07:00Thank you, Frank. Just warning you though, there i...Thank you, Frank. Just warning you though, there is some photo reference. (The panel where Wally's saying "Huey Lewis!?" is an ice skater I found on the front page of the sports section that morning.)<br /><br />Thanks, Ken, I can take it hopefully! Yes, the plot is the check taken from the mailroom by the husband of the unofficial winner of the sad girl contest...<br />It's probably both too unclear and too well hidden.<br />I went back and read "Playful Obsession." It's still funny and obviously specifically about Harvey characters. (Not "Bunny" though, Ken, which I'm not so keen on myself except for maybe The Soular System and those panels with nothing but psychedelic lettering, ha ha) I've known Dan for 20 years. It's not always easy to be friends with, like, the greatest cartoonist ever when you're trying to draw your own stuff! But you could just as well say I lifted it all from "Starchie" or "Goodman Goes Playboy."Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-70594695836176875332010-06-05T13:07:57.111-07:002010-06-05T13:07:57.111-07:00This fucking book is so well made - drawing, writi...This fucking book is so well made - drawing, writing, color, package. It is just sick. Out of the park, Tim.Frank Santorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04272645079882634258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-37680321328547454722010-06-05T11:14:48.476-07:002010-06-05T11:14:48.476-07:00I have read a few reviews, and some of them seem n...I have read a few reviews, and some of them seem not to have a grasp of the plot basics, or not to recognize that there is a strong main plot (or two) around which the other actions revolve; the central thread about Wally's need to get married (or lose his inheritance) connects to the other main plot of the con-men (con-people?). <br />The music scenes (with The Dropouts and the recording session) all relate to the teen romance/seduction thread: Wally’s desire for Jillian as it plays out in his lyrics, his actions in and out of the band, his desire to record her singing, etc . . .<br /><br />Some of the reviews give off the vibe that the reviewers have only read it once or twice – so maybe they have not seen the logic to its humor and construction.<br /><br />It is like “Playful Obsession” in certain ways -- but as a much longer story (20x), it’s more heavily plotted with twists and turns. The sense of absurd exaggeration in the dialogue in WG might make it a little harder for the reader to understand than “PO” (certainly on a first reading), which is more a snapshot of the psychology of Harvey characters exaggerated and less about a plot. And WG is like PO but its sense of parody is intensified and distorted . . .<br /><br />I can’t see how it could be described as superficial, for all of the reasons I write about in my posts – I do talk about the jokes appealing surfaces, but I also talk about all of the “issues” that it deals with.Ken Parillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00701364662425130792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-48767107395667073492010-06-04T20:01:01.010-07:002010-06-04T20:01:01.010-07:00Hello, Anonymous,
You mean like, I don't know,...Hello, Anonymous,<br />You mean like, I don't know, Spenser's The Faerie Queene or something??<br />I can't say I had that in mind, probably more that I tried to do the normal character "journey" as they say on DVD extras and just couldn't connect.<br />But I'm glad you liked at least some of it!<br />Boy, these reviews continue to be a roller coaster. One guy said it wasn't as good as David Boring and another that it wasn't as good as "Playful Obsession." Another said I was superficial. Still haven't been dismissed entirely yet though. Some good notices, too.<br />My wife says I shouldn't read the reviews...Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-60658559202374442372010-06-04T07:51:47.839-07:002010-06-04T07:51:47.839-07:00I found it to be allegorical rather than a straigh...I found it to be allegorical rather than a straight-up "story" or even parody of old comics. I felt like Tim was using old humour comics and characters as vehicles and representations of abstract ideas rather than a conventional "main character is developed emotionally and psychologically over the course of the story" type of thing. I don't think Wally is meant to make that kind of connection to the reader.<br /><br />I liked it...I'm not sure it *all* works for me personally, but I totally love the potential for more and better Hensley stuff in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-86751597577563788242010-06-03T19:34:27.184-07:002010-06-03T19:34:27.184-07:00Gee, Ken, that essay is like a daydream.
Anonymous...Gee, Ken, that essay is like a daydream.<br />Anonymous brought me back to earth.<br />Anyway, this book may be just for the anoraks...Tim Hensleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508411223050676723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-44804053942750129832010-06-03T17:45:43.807-07:002010-06-03T17:45:43.807-07:00It is...It is...Ken Parillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00701364662425130792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-3435898329707856752010-06-03T16:27:06.350-07:002010-06-03T16:27:06.350-07:00looks gorgeouslooks gorgeousBlaise Larmeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01370406935290571198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-57994035473605663252010-06-03T14:25:08.441-07:002010-06-03T14:25:08.441-07:00We find different things . . .We find different things . . .Ken Parillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00701364662425130792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765833308080093932.post-13350298586617454652010-06-03T14:20:55.683-07:002010-06-03T14:20:55.683-07:00If you say so, but I found the series in Mome to b...If you say so, but I found the series in Mome to be the opposite-boring repetitive and thin on any ideas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com